Victorian 3d 1887

[Guest peterkenyon]

I have in my box of coins a Victorian 1887 3d which has very good detail. i am not a coin person ,so cannot grade them. It is a very clear and detailed except that one side of the coin at the top seems to have been flattened. Could this have been a minting error as all the detail seems to be okay. the writing around the flattened side is not distorted

[Guest peterkenyon]

I note that there are 9 people who have looked at this coin and no one has yet made a comment about it, so I thought i would add that the coin is slightly oval in shape, but the writing is not distorted, that i can see. I wondered if this has happened during production. I have tried to add another image which mite be clearer. Please can you give me some leads. Thanks

[Chris Perkins 228]

Peter,

That's a better picture, less space around it is generally good! Those 9 people are rotters aren't they...Although, it could have been the same person 9 times!

I'm afraid in that condition the threepence will have little or no collectable value. It's just a rather charming small piece of old sterling silver with that damage. Collectors only want the better examples, and 1887 Threepences are pretty easy to come by even in high grades.

If it did get that shape during production perhaps someone will want it, but I can't really tell from the picture. The rim could have just been squashed a little.

[Guest peterkenyon]

Hmmmmmmmmmm Interesting, I know that these coins are easy to come by, but having looked at the lettering I cannot see that the rim could have been squashed after minting as it all seems in place.

When these coins were made did they cut out the round bit first and then stamp in the coin face?

I know you weren't there but i thought you might just know.

if you are in the Uk I don't mind sending it to you to have a look at and i will pay the postage both ways. please let me know

peter

peterkenyonent@aol.com

[Aussie Aaron 0]

It looks like the stamp waz alright, because the dots on the outer rim are round but the outer edge is oval shaped, thus meaning it waz a oval blank.

[Chris Perkins 228]

Hmmmmmmmmmm Interesting, I know that these coins are easy to come by, but having looked at the lettering I cannot see that the rim could have been squashed after minting as it all seems in place.

When these coins were made did they cut out the round bit first and then stamp in the coin face?

I know you weren't there but i thought you might just know.

if you are in the Uk I don't mind sending it to you to have a look at and i will pay the postage both ways. please let me know

peter

peterkenyonent@aol.com

They use blank round bits that are struck with the dies. I did have an irregular shaped Young Head victorian 3d once, It was not in great condition and I just sold it for the normal price. I'm in Germany.

[Guest Guest]

Thanks again for the input guys.

It would appear that it was an oval blank from what you are all saying, but how rare is it?

Surely coins that are made wrong must be of a higher value than an ordinary one!

I wonder how many were made that were oval.Any ideas?

[Chris Perkins 228]

Although it's obviously much rarer than a normal one I find that irregular shaped error coins don't really carry much of a premium. Error collectors tend to prefer coins that are struck on the wrong metal, or with the wrong allignment, or on the wrong blank etc.

It would be much more sought after if it was in better condition. To be honest, I wouldn't price it much higher than a normal one of that grade.

[Guest Guest]

Thats good enough for me

thanks for the good advise

peter

[Emperor Oli 0]

That's a coincidence - my Dad's called Peter Kenyon

[Chris Perkins 228]

I did notice the surname Oli, thought that was coincedence enough!

[Guest Guest]

Ther are a few Peter kenyon's about. The most famous other than me and your dad is the chaiman of Chelsea.

My parents originate from manchester area

[Half Penny Jon 0]

Another coincedence! Are you two related?!

[Guest Guest]

Not that i know of

But I am sure that somewhere along the line there must be a connection.

I could be related if you have a lot of money or some rare valuable coins and estate etc!

I don't have much so you would have to take me as you found me.

My Uncle still lives near Urmston

peter

[Emperor Oli 0]

Ah my family originates in Lancashire, not Manchester. My family tree was traced back until 14 something so we've been around here for quite a while!