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1876 missing H Penny?

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Hi all. Found this penny in a lot of about 100 i got from a guy from work. I have other examples of the 76H in worse condition and you can still see the H or whats left of it. Could this be the missing H type?. Cheers all. Dan

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Hi all. Found this penny in a lot of about 100 i got from a guy from work. I have other examples of the 76H in worse condition and you can still see the H or whats left of it. Could this be the missing H type?. Cheers all. Dan

Although there appears to be no H there, a bigger picture would help, there does appear to be a mark or disturbance where the H would be. My guess would be that there was an H there sometime in the past.

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Hi all. Found this penny in a lot of about 100 i got from a guy from work. I have other examples of the 76H in worse condition and you can still see the H or whats left of it. Could this be the missing H type?. Cheers all. Dan

Although there appears to be no H there, a bigger picture would help, there does appear to be a mark or disturbance where the H would be. My guess would be that there was an H there sometime in the past.

I would completely agree. Even the downstroke of the '7' is feint near where the 'H' should be. It looks like a Freeman 89 to me.

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I enquired about the possibility of an 1876 no H via a Freedom of Information Request to the Royal MInt last year. The reply I got can be seen here (see posts 43 & 44)

The conclusion was that there were no London Mint 1876 pennies.

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Hi all. Thanks for getting back to me. Your the experts. I have only been on the pennies for a couple of years. I saw in the CCGB that a 1876 no H was sold by Bamford in 2006. I have seen a few 1876 H pennies in a worn state , worse than this one. Which is pretty bad way. They all show signs of a H but i could not see a mark where the H should be. The 7 is badly worn but why would this area and the H have worn away more than the surrounding numbers? Thanks again for your replies.

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Hi all. Thanks for getting back to me. Your the experts. I have only been on the pennies for a couple of years. I saw in the CCGB that a 1876 no H was sold by Bamford in 2006. I have seen a few 1876 H pennies in a worn state , worse than this one. Which is pretty bad way. They all show signs of a H but i could not see a mark where the H should be. The 7 is badly worn but why would this area and the H have worn away more than the surrounding numbers? Thanks again for your replies.

The giveaway is the height of the numerals in the exergue - they would clearly be lower if there was no H on that die design variant. As to why the H goes before the numerals, it could be that being a lot smaller and lower in relief, that portion of the die was more prone to being clogged up.

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the height of the numbers?

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the H thing doesnt explain this

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this one is my "no H"

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the height of the numbers?

973688.jpg

the H thing doesnt explain this

973691.jpg

this one is my "no H"

Your "no H" is either a clogged die or an earlier casualty of a very worn coin.

However, you're quite right about the height of numerals on close-spaced dates. The 1879 is equally high as the 1876. Ok, here's a theory :- the close-spaced dates were designed with a possibility that any of them might need to be minted by Heatons at short notice, so the die contained room for the H. Interestingly the farthings have the same high-floatin' numerals.

After the early 80s, the numerals on pennies were larger and lower.

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