Old penny

[Allwin collector 2]

Hello

I'm new to the forum. I am a collector of old penny slot machines (allwins), and would like to know more information about the old penny coins I use in machines. Forgive me as I know the keen collector of the british penny coin would gasp at the thought of the valuable unc coins being used in such a way. Dont worry, the coins I use are well worn and have very little if any value.

I would like to take an interest in collecting (not using) the Victoria penny. I have noticed a number of these coins on Ebay, and its a big temptation to place a bid. I have also been informed of false pennies in circulation.

I do have some old victoira and young victoria penny coins ( sadly well worn), are they of any value today?)

Kind regards - Alan

[Accumulator 52]

Hello

I'm new to the forum. I am a collector of old penny slot machines (allwins), and would like to know more information about the old penny coins I use in machines. Forgive me as I know the keen collector of the british penny coin would gasp at the thought of the valuable unc coins being used in such a way. Dont worry, the coins I use are well worn and have very little if any value.

I would like to take an interest in collecting (not using) the Victoria penny. I have noticed a number of these coins on Ebay, and its a big temptation to place a bid. I have also been informed of false pennies in circulation.

I do have some old victoira and young victoria penny coins ( sadly well worn), are they of any value today?)

Kind regards - Alan

Hi Alan,

I also have a small collection of old penny slot machines (Allwins included!) and collect pennies. Some of my best finds were amongst old pennies that I purchased years ago for the machines, so you may be lucky! However, unless you find especially rare coins, those you have in less than pristine condition are unlikely to be worth much. Before bidding on eBay, or anywhere else for that matter, it's worth picking up a book or two and learning a little about grading and values. You could do a lot worse than read through a few threads on here to start you off.

Good luck and thanks for joining us.

[declanwmagee 122]

Hello

I'm new to the forum. I am a collector of old penny slot machines (allwins), and would like to know more information about the old penny coins I use in machines. Forgive me as I know the keen collector of the british penny coin would gasp at the thought of the valuable unc coins being used in such a way. Dont worry, the coins I use are well worn and have very little if any value.

I would like to take an interest in collecting (not using) the Victoria penny. I have noticed a number of these coins on Ebay, and its a big temptation to place a bid. I have also been informed of false pennies in circulation.

I do have some old victoira and young victoria penny coins ( sadly well worn), are they of any value today?)

Kind regards - Alan

Hi Alan,

I also have a small collection of old penny slot machines (Allwins included!) and collect pennies. Some of my best finds were amongst old pennies that I purchased years ago for the machines, so you may be lucky! However, unless you find especially rare coins, those you have in less than pristine condition are unlikely to be worth much. Before bidding on eBay, or anywhere else for that matter, it's worth picking up a book or two and learning a little about grading and values. You could do a lot worse than read through a few threads on here to start you off.

Good luck and thanks for joining us.

How many of the 1927 rev 1922 pennies are extant, Steve? And do tell once again, for the benefit of Mr Allwin here, where you found it...

[Accumulator 52]

Hello

I'm new to the forum. I am a collector of old penny slot machines (allwins), and would like to know more information about the old penny coins I use in machines. Forgive me as I know the keen collector of the british penny coin would gasp at the thought of the valuable unc coins being used in such a way. Dont worry, the coins I use are well worn and have very little if any value.

I would like to take an interest in collecting (not using) the Victoria penny. I have noticed a number of these coins on Ebay, and its a big temptation to place a bid. I have also been informed of false pennies in circulation.

I do have some old victoira and young victoria penny coins ( sadly well worn), are they of any value today?)

Kind regards - Alan

Hi Alan,

I also have a small collection of old penny slot machines (Allwins included!) and collect pennies. Some of my best finds were amongst old pennies that I purchased years ago for the machines, so you may be lucky! However, unless you find especially rare coins, those you have in less than pristine condition are unlikely to be worth much. Before bidding on eBay, or anywhere else for that matter, it's worth picking up a book or two and learning a little about grading and values. You could do a lot worse than read through a few threads on here to start you off.

Good luck and thanks for joining us.

How many of the 1927 rev 1922 pennies are extant, Steve? And do tell once again, for the benefit of Mr Allwin here, where you found it...

I can't fail to respond to your introduction, Declan

Having just mentioned this same coin in another thread I hesitate to bore anyone again but, for the benefit of a fellow slot machine collector, here's the story:

I collected coins (especially pennies) as a boy but hadn't touched them for many years. About 20 years ago I started collecting penny slot machines, for which I eventually built a mini 'amusement arcade' that I took to my daughter's school each Christmas. Over the same period I had started to amass a fairly huge number of pennies, mainly for playing the machines. Many of these, taken at random, were handed out at the fairs at 10 for £1 and ended up back in the machines and taken home again. A fair few were pocketed as winnings, though, never to be seen again.

Some years after I started attending the fairs, I decided to have a sort though the pennies (maybe 20,000 in all) just to see if there were any rarities I could add to my old collection. I did find a 1903, 'open 3' and a few less-common die pairings for other years but most of these were well-worn and valueless, as you might expect.

One day I laid out all the 1922s, reverse side up, possibly a hundred or more of them, and was just scanning for any obvious differences, not even thinking about what I might find. Suddenly I noticed that one of the coins was markedly different from the others and, on top of that, was in particularly good condition. This was a penny that almost certainly been used on my machines.

I pulled the coin out and did some checking, only to discover that this was an example of the ultra-rare 1922 rev of 1927 (Freeman 192A). Not only that, it was possibly the best example ever found!

Ultra-rare means that perhaps 15 are known, worldwide, that a survey of pennies done in the seventies didn't find a single example in a couple of million searched, and that no example has appeared at auction for many years.

So Alan, do check through your pennies, as everyone else should. You never know what you may find!

[declanwmagee 122]

Thank you Steve! I do love that story. It's the perfect answer to "Why do you collect coins?". That's what it's all about - the treasure hunt.

[Peter 615]

I'm turning GREEN.If I fell into a barrel of tits I would come out sucking my thumb.

[azda 979]

I'm turning GREEN.If I fell into a barrel of tits I would come out sucking my thumb.

As you usually do Peter

[Allwin collector 2]

Hello

I'm new to the forum. I am a collector of old penny slot machines (allwins), and would like to know more information about the old penny coins I use in machines. Forgive me as I know the keen collector of the british penny coin would gasp at the thought of the valuable unc coins being used in such a way. Dont worry, the coins I use are well worn and have very little if any value.

I would like to take an interest in collecting (not using) the Victoria penny. I have noticed a number of these coins on Ebay, and its a big temptation to place a bid. I have also been informed of false pennies in circulation.

I do have some old victoira and young victoria penny coins ( sadly well worn), are they of any value today?)

Kind regards - Alan

Hi Alan,

I also have a small collection of old penny slot machines (Allwins included!) and collect pennies. Some of my best finds were amongst old pennies that I purchased years ago for the machines, so you may be lucky! However, unless you find especially rare coins, those you have in less than pristine condition are unlikely to be worth much. Before bidding on eBay, or anywhere else for that matter, it's worth picking up a book or two and learning a little about grading and values. You could do a lot worse than read through a few threads on here to start you off.

Good luck and thanks for joining us.

Thanks for the replies, Ive had a good look at my pennies. Nothing to shout about, the oldest Ive found is a young Victoria 1861. As a newie to coin collecting not sure of the grading except to say its smooth but readable. I would be also interested Peter in what Allwin machines you have in your collection, I mainly collect BMCo's and Bryans

Kind regards - Alan

How many of the 1927 rev 1922 pennies are extant, Steve? And do tell once again, for the benefit of Mr Allwin here, where you found it...

I can't fail to respond to your introduction, Declan

Having just mentioned this same coin in another thread I hesitate to bore anyone again but, for the benefit of a fellow slot machine collector, here's the story:

I collected coins (especially pennies) as a boy but hadn't touched them for many years. About 20 years ago I started collecting penny slot machines, for which I eventually built a mini 'amusement arcade' that I took to my daughter's school each Christmas. Over the same period I had started to amass a fairly huge number of pennies, mainly for playing the machines. Many of these, taken at random, were handed out at the fairs at 10 for £1 and ended up back in the machines and taken home again. A fair few were pocketed as winnings, though, never to be seen again.

Some years after I started attending the fairs, I decided to have a sort though the pennies (maybe 20,000 in all) just to see if there were any rarities I could add to my old collection. I did find a 1903, 'open 3' and a few less-common die pairings for other years but most of these were well-worn and valueless, as you might expect.

One day I laid out all the 1922s, reverse side up, possibly a hundred or more of them, and was just scanning for any obvious differences, not even thinking about what I might find. Suddenly I noticed that one of the coins was markedly different from the others and, on top of that, was in particularly good condition. This was a penny that almost certainly been used on my machines.

I pulled the coin out and did some checking, only to discover that this was an example of the ultra-rare 1922 rev of 1927 (Freeman 192A). Not only that, it was possibly the best example ever found!

Ultra-rare means that perhaps 15 are known, worldwide, that a survey of pennies done in the seventies didn't find a single example in a couple of million searched, and that no example has appeared at auction for many years.

So Alan, do check through your pennies, as everyone else should. You never know what you may find!

[Peckris 579]

I'm turning GREEN. If I fell into a barrel of tits I would come out sucking my thumb.

Me too. That well and truly trumps my ABU 1951 brass 3d and GEF 1888 sixpence in a 20p box at the Midlands Fair.

[Accumulator 52]

Thanks for the replies, Ive had a good look at my pennies. Nothing to shout about, the oldest Ive found is a young Victoria 1861. As a newie to coin collecting not sure of the grading except to say its smooth but readable. I would be also interested Peter in what Allwin machines you have in your collection, I mainly collect BMCo's and Bryans

Kind regards - Alan

Hi Alan, it's Steve not Peter. Peter collects lots of things but not slot machines, to my knowledge!

Also, you're reply got lost in the quoted posts. Sometimes it's better to just add a fresh comment to the bottom of the thread.

Anyway, unless you've been extremely thorough, you may well have missed something. Do you know what a 1903 'open 3' is? Or a 1908 1*+C? or a 1911 Gouby X? I doubt it! It might just be worth checking those pennies again once you've done some background reading

I have an early Allwin, a Bryans Elevenses, a Bryans Clock, a 'Test Your Grip', a Bradley's Crusader and a vintage German jackpot machine.

[Allwin collector 2]

Hi Steve

Sorry for getting your name wrong, some this allwin machines you have there, Im currently working on a 1933 Bryans Payramid. It seems I have a lot to learn about penny coins, as I havnt a clue what a 1903 'open 3' is? Or a 1908 1*+C? or a 1911 Gouby X

I have downloaded on my laptop a penny coin valuation by Tony Clayton, maybe Mr Clayton is a member of your group?

Thanks once again for your replies

[Peter 615]

I did the complete 1911-1920 at £2.50 each GEF+ Plus a 1893 3d at 45p

[Accumulator 52]

I did the complete 1911-1920 at £2.50 each GEF+ Plus a 1893 3d at 45p

Complete? Including the H's and KN's in GEF+?

[Accumulator 52]

Hi Steve

Sorry for getting your name wrong, some this allwin machines you have there, Im currently working on a 1933 Bryans Payramid. It seems I have a lot to learn about penny coins, as I havnt a clue what a 1903 'open 3' is? Or a 1908 1*+C? or a 1911 Gouby X

I have downloaded on my laptop a penny coin valuation by Tony Clayton, maybe Mr Clayton is a member of your group?

Thanks once again for your replies

The Payramid is one of the greatest machine's ever produced. Well done for getting one of those!

Tony Clayton's site gives the dates and a few basic varieties, though he's done a great job overall, especially in finding some of the photos on his accompanying site. For more variety details you'd be best to get a copy of Michael Freeman's 'The Bronze Coinage of Great Britain'. I believe Tony has visited this site, though not on a regular basis.

Edited March 16, 2013 by Accumulator