Victoria young head 1882, 1864

[Allwin collector 2]

I am a newbie to coin collecting I would like some advice on 2 old penny coins I have found in my old pennies.

They are of a young Victoria (bun head), 1882 and 1864. Both are in fine condition and the dates are easy to read.

Before I get too excited and book a world cruise, are these coins worth anything?.

On the 1882 coin there is no H visible near the date

Kind regards - Alan

[Peter 615]

Book the cruise...hang on post some pictures otherwise it is a Dover Calais foot passenger.

[Allwin collector 2]

Here's the pictures Peter, I know what your going to say now, keep looking!

[Gary 7]

Sorry Alan but they are not even going to get you a Foot passenger crossing. The H is there on the 1882 and both coins are very worn. Keep Looking. Sorry!

[Allwin collector 2]

Hi Gary

Thanks for the reply

Kind regards

Alan

[Peckris 579]

Hi Gary

Thanks for the reply

Kind regards

Alan

To give you some idea of what a high grade (and therefore valuable) 1864 penny looks like (courtesy of Google Images) :

This is weird - both attachments are there when I "Edit" the post, but they don't show when I "Save Changes". What's going wrong?

Edited March 17, 2013 by Peckris

[Peckris 579]

NOW they show. What the f.......?

Edited March 17, 2013 by Peckris

[Allwin collector 2]

NOW they show. What the f.......?

[Allwin collector 2]

Hi to all

All very nice coins, I can see I will have to learn to walk before I can run.

I thought for one moment on a sunday morning I had found my treasure only to become a begar again in the afternoon - isnt life grand when your daft

As always kind regards

Alan

[1949threepence 3,367]

......and here is an 1864 plain 4 in GEF:-

[1949threepence 3,367]

Should have added ~ that's not mine (I wish) it's courtesy of Colin Cooke, who currently has it on sale for £1200 !!!

[Peckris 579]

Should have added ~ that's not mine (I wish) it's courtesy of Colin Cooke, who currently has it on sale for £1200 !!!

The grading sounds courtesy of CC too - I wouldn't rate it higher than EF maximum myself

[1949threepence 3,367]

Should have added ~ that's not mine (I wish) it's courtesy of Colin Cooke, who currently has it on sale for £1200 !!!

The grading sounds courtesy of CC too - I wouldn't rate it higher than EF maximum myself

It's what known as a "rarity default enhancement", or "sellers privilege" Peck........

......and yes, I've just made up those BS phrases !!!

Just as a matter of interest, how would you grade this one:-

Edited March 18, 2013 by 1949threepence

[Peckris 579]

Should have added ~ that's not mine (I wish) it's courtesy of Colin Cooke, who currently has it on sale for £1200 !!!

The grading sounds courtesy of CC too - I wouldn't rate it higher than EF maximum myself

It's what known as a "rarity default enhancement", or "sellers privilege" Peck........

......and yes, I've just made up those BS phrases !!!

Just as a matter of interest, how would you grade this one:-

That again I would grade EF, though it's a much clearer picture than CC's.

[Peter 615]

NOW they show. What the f.......?

Too much Sunday Joint Peck

[Accumulator 52]

Both coins have a steely-grey colour, but I'm sure that's more to do with the photography than the toning of the coins. The CC coin is certainly approaching GEF, but the other I would place at the lower end of EF, judging by the wear to the high points.

[1949threepence 3,367]

That again I would grade EF, though it's a much clearer picture than CC's.

Both coins have a steely-grey colour, but I'm sure that's more to do with the photography than the toning of the coins. The CC coin is certainly approaching GEF, but the other I would place at the lower end of EF, judging by the wear to the high points.

Well that's interesting chaps, because the latter specimen is from the much vaunted Edinburgh collection (although clearly one of the less spectacular items), was graded at "A/Unc toned" and priced at £1250.00. Somebody must have bought it for at least relatively near the asking price, as it's no longer on sale.

Personally, I don't think it's either as good or as nice as the earlier one still on sale now.

Incidentally, I agree with lower EF for the latter, and about GEF for the former, although no trace of lustre on either.

Edited March 18, 2013 by 1949threepence

[Peckris 579]

That again I would grade EF, though it's a much clearer picture than CC's.

Both coins have a steely-grey colour, but I'm sure that's more to do with the photography than the toning of the coins. The CC coin is certainly approaching GEF, but the other I would place at the lower end of EF, judging by the wear to the high points.

Well that's interesting chaps, because the latter specimen is from the much vaunted Edinburgh collection (although clearly one of the less spectacular items), was graded at "A/Unc toned" and priced at £1250.00. Somebody must have bought it for at least relatively near the asking price, as it's no longer on sale.

Personally, I don't think it's either as good or as nice as the earlier one still on sale now.

Incidentally, I agree with lower EF for the latter, and about GEF for the former, although no trace of lustre on either.

Hmm. If you look at the first penny, there is some flattening of the laurel leaves & the folds in Vicky's bodice, and her eyebrow is half gone. That's why I wouldn't rate higher than EF.