Edward VI Crown

[Nicholas 51]

I'm trying to find out the relative rarity of the 1551-53 Edward VI Crowns. Coin crafts 1999 standard Catalogue for example says that a 1551 Crown tun mintmark is extremely rare. True? Also I keep seeing references to Lingfords 1950 sale that list the varieties of theses beautiful crowns and presumably the relative rarities of each.. Any help?

[Rob 3,152]

The Lingford catalogue doesn't list the relative rarities of the dies, but Tun is a very rare mark for 1551 because it only appears on obverse Z. The vast majority dated 1551 are obverse A with a few other dies appearing - B, C, E, F, G, J & K. all of these are relatively rare. 1552 & 1553 have 2 dies per year. It's a need to get catalogue for reference purposes.

[Coinery 1,156]

The Lingford catalogue doesn't list the relative rarities of the dies, but Tun is a very rare mark for 1551 because it only appears on obverse Z. The vast majority dated 1551 are obverse A with a few other dies appearing - B, C, E, F, G, J & K. all of these are relatively rare. 1552 & 1553 have 2 dies per year. It's a need to get catalogue for reference purposes.

Have you got a spare one, Rob?

Edit: if Nicholas didn't want any spares first, that is!

Edited April 20, 2013 by Coinery

[Rob 3,152]

The Lingford catalogue doesn't list the relative rarities of the dies, but Tun is a very rare mark for 1551 because it only appears on obverse Z. The vast majority dated 1551 are obverse A with a few other dies appearing - B, C, E, F, G, J & K. all of these are relatively rare. 1552 & 1553 have 2 dies per year. It's a need to get catalogue for reference purposes.

Have you got a spare one, Rob?

Edit: if Nicholas didn't want any spares first, that is!

No, but might have soon. Waiting for a list of books and catalogues off someone and it's the sort of thing he would have.

[Coinery 1,156]

The Lingford catalogue doesn't list the relative rarities of the dies, but Tun is a very rare mark for 1551 because it only appears on obverse Z. The vast majority dated 1551 are obverse A with a few other dies appearing - B, C, E, F, G, J & K. all of these are relatively rare. 1552 & 1553 have 2 dies per year. It's a need to get catalogue for reference purposes.

Have you got a spare one, Rob?

Edit: if Nicholas didn't want any spares first, that is!

No, but might have soon. Waiting for a list of books and catalogues off someone and it's the sort of thing he would have.

You've got my email!

[Nicholas 51]

This is the coin that started my investigations..

http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u567/2tearsinabucket1/C8A30E94-FE5B-4040-9247-EF072C50AD24-8069-0000052E983431F9_zps9a676538.jpg

http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u567/2tearsinabucket1/92DC8DB9-B591-40DE-A86E-2276B2F078CD-8069-0000052E8EDDCB17_zps52095662.jpg

[Rob 3,152]

This is the coin that started my investigations..

http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u567/2tearsinabucket1/C8A30E94-FE5B-4040-9247-EF072C50AD24-8069-0000052E983431F9_zps9a676538.jpg

http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u567/2tearsinabucket1/92DC8DB9-B591-40DE-A86E-2276B2F078CD-8069-0000052E8EDDCB17_zps52095662.jpg

Mmmmm.

[Coinery 1,156]

This is the coin that started my investigations..

http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u567/2tearsinabucket1/C8A30E94-FE5B-4040-9247-EF072C50AD24-8069-0000052E983431F9_zps9a676538.jpg

http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u567/2tearsinabucket1/92DC8DB9-B591-40DE-A86E-2276B2F078CD-8069-0000052E8EDDCB17_zps52095662.jpg

Mmmmm.

Blinkin' blimey, Nicholas, is that yours? Very nice!

[Nicholas 51]

Yes it's mine. I used to have a really big australian coin collection starting from the ripe old age of 12. Then over 35 years moved to really really old australian coins- namely english coins. Love the monarchs. The collection has now gone from 200 to about 20 coins. So quality improved somewhat.

[Coinery 1,156]

Yes it's mine. I used to have a really big australian coin collection starting from the ripe old age of 12. Then over 35 years moved to really really old australian coins- namely english coins. Love the monarchs. The collection has now gone from 200 to about 20 coins. So quality improved somewhat.

A great move, obviously, looking forward to more of that! Are you an Australian and living there? Always amazed at the breadth of this forum!

Incidentely, presuming you are an Australian, is that a common and happy pastime down under, to collect the older English coins, or do most there stay G3 and younger? Or do most just stick with the homegrown material? I know I've sent nearly as many to Aus, as US and Canada, so there's obviously a healthy base of collectors out there!

[Nicholas 51]

Aussie born, bred, and love it here.beautiful wife family of 3 littlies. Biggest market by far here I'd say is australian coins. GB only minor, but seems to be gaining interest mostly through Noble. For me I got a bit tired of halfpennies, pennies florins..that all looked the same..and was drawn to the brilliant and diverse english world. From celtic to George V and everything in between.

[Nicholas 51]

It seems the complete Edward VI dies are listed in the 1950 Lingford collection sale, page 8. Anyone got a copy?

[Rob 3,152]

It seems the complete Edward VI dies are listed in the 1950 Lingford collection sale, page 8. Anyone got a copy?

This is what you are asking for.

Personally, I would use the Nightingale sale catalogue which also has this list, but with an extra added. I have also found a previously unlisted reverse die paired with obv.G, but that assumes the lists don't contain a misprunt and that I have not missed a blocked die. I haven't had time to confirm this..

Edited April 27, 2013 by Rob

[azda 979]

This is the coin that started my investigations..

http://i1322.photobu...zps9a676538.jpg

http://i1322.photobu...zps52095662.jpg

really need a dribble icon on this forum. Very nice that

[Nicholas 51]

Thanks Rob. Love this forum. Brilliant. Any chance of a copy of this page that's in focus? I'm going a bit cross-eyed. N

[Rob 3,152]

Thanks Rob. Love this forum. Brilliant. Any chance of a copy of this page that's in focus? I'm going a bit cross-eyed. N

It is in focus. I rested it on the scanner bed. i.e. I can't do better.

[Nicholas 51]

Understood. It perhaps lost focus in the photo bucket process. Can you increase the number of pixels in the photo bucket step?

[Rob 3,152]

Understood. It perhaps lost focus in the photo bucket process. Can you increase the number of pixels in the photo bucket step?

PM me your email address and I'll send a larger greyscale image to you rather than the black and white.

[Rob 3,152]

on its way. You might like to remove your address from public view to avoid spammers. Send a PM or email next time to save giving out the info.

Edited April 27, 2013 by Rob

[Peckris 579]

on its way. You might like to edit the above post and remove your address from public view to avoid spammers. Send a PM or email next time to save giving out the info.

He didn't get that message in time it seems. But equally, we should perhaps avoid "quoting" a post that includes the same information? (I've fallen into that trap too ).

Edited April 27, 2013 by Peckris

[Rob 3,152]

on its way. You might like to edit the above post and remove your address from public view to avoid spammers. Send a PM or email next time to save giving out the info.

He didn't get that message in time it seems. But equally, we should perhaps avoid "quoting" a post that includes the same information? (I've fallen into that trap too ).

Happier?

[Peckris 579]

on its way. You might like to edit the above post and remove your address from public view to avoid spammers. Send a PM or email next time to save giving out the info.

He didn't get that message in time it seems. But equally, we should perhaps avoid "quoting" a post that includes the same information? (I've fallen into that trap too ).

Happier?

All we're left with now is his original post, which he is now too late to Edit!

[Nicholas 51]

Oh no- a walk to the park with the boys and now Im in trouble with spammers... My mistake.

[TomGoodheart 403]

All we're left with now is his original post, which he is now too late to Edit!

Oh no- a walk to the park with the boys and now Im in trouble with spammers... My mistake.

I've deleted it for you Nicholas. Feel free to repost it if you still want to meet Russian brides.

Richard

[argentumandcoins 70]

All we're left with now is his original post, which he is now too late to Edit!

Oh no- a walk to the park with the boys and now Im in trouble with spammers... My mistake.

I've deleted it for you Nicholas. Feel free to repost it if you still want to meet Russian brides.

Richard

Are they cheaper to run and less mental than my British one?