more FAKES

[Gary 7]

The German Ebay site states that is not permitted to sell replicas of Coins however the problem is to convince Ebay that these coins are fake?

I did not notice the gkcoins watermark but even that is not enough to prove that the 1887 set is a fake as the now seller could have bought the set and is reselling!

Who is gkcoins and who did they sell the set to?

[ozjohn 636]

Every time I see these replica coins on Ebay I report the items perhaps all members of this forum should do the same, I don't know if it does any good but perhaps a large amount of reports on these items may do some good. In general these items are counterfeits and can be used to defraud and I always thought it was illegal to counterfeit coins of the realm but I don't know if this applies to demonetized coins.

In the US I believe it is legal to sell reproduction coins but they must be marked as such. I know this would not stop a truly dishonest person but could help to keep some of this material off Ebay.

[Gary1000 41]

I'm not sure about if they are fakes but he has definitly used completed auction photo's. That 1903 HC sold a few weeks back for £1500ish

[Michael-Roo 781]

I see two people leaving feedback state the coins they received are fakes.

Edited December 16, 2014 by Michael-Roo

[Nick 329]

I see two people leaving feedback state the coins they received are fakes.

I wonder quite what they were expecting. Low feedback seller from China, selling via German eBay. Doesn't get more iffy than that.

[Michael-Roo 781]

I see two people leaving feedback state the coins they received are fakes.

I wonder quite what they were expecting. Low feedback seller from China, selling via German eBay. Doesn't get more iffy than that.

Indeed. One born every minute etc….

[colonialjohn 3]

Just joined. I like to correspond with any experts here on fakes for English.Irish and Scottish coins between 1500-1800 on a new book I am publishing called Forgotten Coins of the American Colonies- Revisited. As some of you know this book mostly dealt with counterfeit British/Irish halfpence of George II/George III. In this book there will be a short chapter on these as these have or currently have been studied. One chapter which I will devote 75 pages will be represenative fakes. As an example this member SEUK and his post to these 3 Shilling Bank Token fakes to Ingley is the kind of material I like to post into this new book.

I have over 300 top end world counterfeits already fully XRF analyzed and will use some of these pieces for this chapter. I need further in-depth information or RECOMMENDATIONS you English collectors would think noteworthy. Not really Ashmore types composed of german silver but more CC's of the period.

My E-Mail is johnmenc@optonline.net Send me pics and information and if noteworthy like Seuk I will give it strong consideration. Even though Seuk's is post 1800 its noteworthy.

Questions?

John Lorenzo

Numismatist

United States

[numismatist 2]

FAKE ANNE 1706 r&P HALFCROWN

thought it looked strange -- Ebay 321622906291 seller calls it a "replica" --

its getting a few bids and it soon be on again with " replica " omitted I suspect

Is this been seen before, I cannot remember seeing a Anne fake

[numismatist 2]

Made me start looking at the SOLD Annes and looks like

I can buy a " set " Heres a Crown

[numismatist 2]

and heres a Shilling

[Coinery 1,121]

I haven't seen a confirmed fake Anne, either! Though we did have a long discussion on here a while ago about an Anne Crown (I think) - hair detail was the discussion point!

can't remember who posted the coin?

[azda 979]

Lol, the one Numismatist posted does'nt even look real, sorry but if you bought this then more fool who would

[azda 979]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2886170/Chinese-criminal-gangs-master-ability-create-perfect-euro-2-coins-investigators-reveal-shipments-forgeries-arriving-Italy.html

[Rob 3,140]

The pre-union R&P issue crowns used a filled VIGO obverse die in some instances, though whether that die was also used for the rarer plumes issue is currently uncertain.

[scott 144]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2886170/Chinese-criminal-gangs-master-ability-create-perfect-euro-2-coins-investigators-reveal-shipments-forgeries-arriving-Italy.html

took the Royal mint a while to learn how to stick 2 parts of a £2 together as well though.

[colonialjohn 3]

Interesting - these Annes do all look like modern Chinese fakes and not late 19th or 20thC types - at all.

John Lorenzo

Numismatist

United States

[hazelman 44]

Scarry - so many fakes - wonder if ive bought some - very useful thread

[Nick 329]

Another dodgy 1847 crown.

[Michael-Roo 781]

Another dodgy 1847 crown.

From Hong Kong?

Heavens. What surprise……...

[azda 979]

I highlighted this inthe ebay thread frim Nicks link, but the same seller also has a fake 1864 die 64 florin for sale

[goomolique 3]

How do you reconise these are fakes?

[Nick 329]

How do you reconise these are fakes?

a. The replicas fail to recreate the prooflike quality.

b. They also struggle to replicate the edge lettering.

c. It comes from China.

[numismatist 2]

Is this a new type of 1763 Fake Shilling

Ebay 1716 7515 9718 Stunning UNC been in his collection 35 years

and only ever handled with gloves

[numismatist 2]

The Reverse

[numismatist 2]

Note the strange double nose and formation of the lettering "E" falling apart etc