Gothic Crown Anyone?

[DaveG38 405]

The OP coin? I am pretty sure it would hold at 50k in the US given the record of some of the other 66 bits.

BTW, some years (3 or 4 ) ago, I saw a pristine S65 Mercedes which listed two years previously at 120k go down to 45k!

I considered one of the bigger engined S classes when I bought mine, but the drawbacks outweighed the advantages. Downsides were:

1. Lousy fuel economy

2. Need to use premium grade fuel.

3. Double the Road Tax.

4. Double the insurance.

5. Loads more gadgets to go wrong, but mostly ones I wouldn't use anyway.

6. Double the price.

Upside was about 1 second or so off the 0-60 time.

On balance it didn't seem worth it to me.

[numismatist 2]

This Gothic 1847 in DNW made £5500.00 Septemeber 2012 and I think its

got less marks than the Ebay one and looks more natural to me

[azda 979]

Nice coin.

[Nick 329]

In my opinion, no coin can be worth more than say 3 x Spink book value. You can dress it up with a fancy plastic overcoat and write a number close to 70 on it, but it's still a coin that is no better than 'as struck' or FDC, for which Spink give prices.

BTW. When will PCGS realise that "UN DECIMO" (sic) is Latin for eleventh and should be one word. It damages their credibility.

[VickySilver 830]

Aesthetics a bit hard to judge between that last coin and the OP coin, but 5500 does seem a relative "bargain".

IMO, these Gothics are ballistic on prices and as much as I like Vicky Silver (ha ha), I have so far passed and been contented with the florins. Think I would take a '51 florin before either of those heaps of --- -- -- ---.

[Colin88 54]

The build quality of 'new' Mercs are not what they used to be I am reliably informed by a friend of mine who owns one of the largest bodyshop repairers in the South....one of my cars is a 19 year old 993 Turbo which is my everyday car...its hewn out of granite, appears to be bullet proof and other than brake pads, oil, rear tyres (every 6 - 8k miles oops although tyre prices for the car have tumbled in the time too)...and a few not really that expensive bits and bobs its never let me down badly, sailed through the last 5 MOTs and has actually gone up in value in the 8 years that I've had it.......all in all its probably worked out cheaper to maintain than a Ford escort....(apart from the petrol that is)!

[Nicholas 51]

I used to drive an old 1973 Porsche 911 S to and from unii. Bought it for 22k, sold it 7 years later for 45k. My first good investment...

[Nicholas 51]

Australian dollars..

[Nicholas 51]

Made a few bad investments since then.. !

[azda 979]

And here was me thinking UNI students were poor. Bet the lecturers were pissed off

[Colin88 54]

Made a few bad investments since then.. !

Yup, in 1998 (the year before Ferrari took control) I bought a brand new Maserati Ghibli for £54k...(never get drunk at a motor show with a credit card.)...sold it 2 years later for £16k...absolute rubbish car...everything went wrong or fell off or didnt fit...hole in the petrol tank, top of gear knob fell off twice, boot lid never fitted correcly, drivers window stuck down...lozenge shaped Maserati clock fell off out of the dash !??...and thats what I can remember....you dont get that with a Gothic Crown.

[Accumulator 52]

I used to drive an old 1973 Porsche 911 S to and from unii. Bought it for 22k, sold it 7 years later for 45k. My first good investment...

Snap... almost! My second car was a 1968 Porsche 911L. Lots of fun back in the day, but would feel slow now.

Edited June 18, 2013 by Accumulator

[Accumulator 52]

Made a few bad investments since then.. !

Yup, in 1998 (the year before Ferrari took control) I bought a brand new Maserati Ghibli for £54k...(never get drunk at a motor show with a credit card.)...sold it 2 years later for £16k...absolute rubbish car...everything went wrong or fell off or didnt fit...hole in the petrol tank, top of gear knob fell off twice, boot lid never fitted correcly, drivers window stuck down...lozenge shaped Maserati clock fell off out of the dash !??...and thats what I can remember....you dont get that with a Gothic Crown.

You could have bought a nice Ferrari Daytona back then for much the same money. Now that would have been a handsome investment.

[TomGoodheart 402]

I considered one of the bigger engined S classes when I bought mine, but the drawbacks outweighed the advantages. Upside was about 1 second or so off the 0-60 time.

See. I feel sorry for you guys with your expensive cars. I like my Skoda. You know where you are with a Skoda.

O - £1 in under 3 seconds.

[Peter 615]

Mrs Peter has a Hyundai SIII coupe and I have recently sold my 1.9 turbo Vectra with a view to buy an Estate but Dog/family friendly.

Plus my DIY is an important part of what I enjoy.

You can't put a door or smelly springer in a Porsche Cayman.

[Peckris 579]

Mrs Peter has a Hyundai SIII coupe and I have recently sold my 1.9 turbo Vectra with a view to buy an Estate but Dog/family friendly.

Plus my DIY is an important part of what I enjoy.

You can't put a door or smelly springer in a Porsche Cayman.

Pity you can't still get the Austin Montego 2L estate. BL didn't make many good cars, but that was one of the few.

[Rob 3,152]

I drive an asthmatic dog kennel. Keeps cutting out, the elastic band takes a long time to wind up and it starts to complain beyond 70mph. But it gets me from A to B

A car salesman once commented that if I had waited two weeks I could have had a new reg car on 1st August. I replied that when I sold a car, nobody cared what reg. it was and I had never been asked how old it was either. 2 questions was the norm. First was it working, second how much MOT left on it? Usually I get rid when the engine dies.

[Mr T 175]

When will PCGS realise that "UN DECIMO" (sic) is Latin for eleventh and should be one word.

Right after the word piefort stops being used.

[Nicholas 51]

We didn't have the 911L only the T, E, S and RS models. L stood for?

[Accumulator 52]

We didn't have the 911L only the T, E, S and RS models. L stood for?

As I recall, L stood for Lux and it was the more comfortable model. I drove the S (sport) a few times and it was slightly more sporty having a more aggressively profiled cam. They were all 2.0 litre in those days (later increasing to 2.2, 2.4, 2.7 then 3.0 etc) so max power was only 140-160 bhp.

[Nicholas 51]

Right Lux! Mine was 2.4 S in viper green with190 bhp and quite light - ridiculous colour but loved it at the time! You could hear the flywheel whirring when changing down gears and the throaty air cooled engine. It was very quick but had a nasty oversteer with the emgine hanging heavy in the back - a Porsche racing driver taught me how to manage the oversteer.. Push down the throttle and let go of the wheel then catch the wheel when pointing in the right direction.. A ride!!!

[Gary1000 41]

Right Lux! Mine was 2.4 S in viper green with190 bhp and quite light - ridiculous colour but loved it at the time! You could hear the flywheel whirring when changing down gears and the throaty air cooled engine. It was very quick but had a nasty oversteer with the emgine hanging heavy in the back - a Porsche racing driver taught me how to manage the oversteer.. Push down the throttle and let go of the wheel then catch the wheel when pointing in the right direction.. A ride!!!

I had to may do with a 944, the 911 was too much dosh for me....and they were so ugly.

[Nicholas 51]

Like the 928 and 924, the 944 was a tragic design mistake that came and went like a fart.

[TomGoodheart 402]

When will PCGS realise that "UN DECIMO" (sic) is Latin for eleventh and should be one word.

Right after the word piefort stops being used.

Double thick pies? Yum!

They were all 2.0 litre in those days (later increasing to 2.2, 2.4, 2.7 then 3.0 etc) so max power was only 140-160 bhp.

Gosh. How times have changed. I get that with my Skoda. 1.4l TSI. Nice little engine.

[Sword 1,473]

By comparison, there's this one at the forthcoming London Coins auction.

London Coins is grading this CGS 80 crown as "choice aFDC". Bit optimistic with the marks in the field? Also, the grading table on the CGS website equates CGS 91 to 94 as aFDC (not that I agree some of the conversions in the table in the first place)