Pennys

[Guest Freakdaddy]

My mate has a george 111 penny 1908 it has been spliced so Britannia is upsidedown why was this done it looks like a very labourious task any value ?

[Sylvester 15]

My mate has a george 111 penny 1908 it has been spliced so Britannia is upsidedown why was this done it looks like a very labourious task any value ?

That'll be 1806 (it's either a half penny or a penny), and it's perfectly normal they were struck like that (reverse upside down) they only change to obverse/reverse aligned the same way in 1887.

There should be a line/groove running around the edge also. (If i remember rightly).

[Copper's not really my area].

[Guest Freakdaddy]

Yes it has the milling is lower than the edges

[Guest Freakdaddy]

Yes 1808 but why was this done ?

[Sylvester 15]

Yes 1808 but why was this done ?

How big is the coin in mm?

Why was what done? The line round the edge or the reverse upside down?

Well the reverse was always upside down from 1662-1787, from 1787 to 1837 it depended on the coin, some had them the 'right' way up some 'upside down'. From 1837-1887 it went to all back upside down again and changed back in 1887 to how it is now.

If you find an American coin they still have the 'upside down' alignment. (Much of Europe did at one point too)

Now as for the line around the edge, sorry i dunno why it has that but it does. Someone on here will know though.

[Sylvester 15]

Are you definately sure it's 1808?

If so i wanna see a picture if you can post one, (sure it's not a worn 6?).

1808s do exist indeed but only of the pennies at 34mm in diameter.

Actually using the s with 1808 was a bit of a liberty since only 1 is known.

[Guest Freakdaddy]

Why the splice ?Ill get a picture posted soon

[Chris Perkins 228]

It'll be 1806, not 1808 and it is not spliced. They were made like that with the reverse upside down compared to the obverse and a thin milling giving the appearance of 2 coins stuck together. I think that was probably done to make them more difficult to forge.

If it's in circulated condition it won't be worth a huge amount.

If you'd listened to Sylvester and typed more carefully, we wouldn't be going round the houses like this!

[Guest Freakdaddy]

Sorry to you all I was a bit squiffy .this coin is dated 1807 is 34mm wide ,both sides seem to be worn to a different degree.My original question still stands why was this done to such a low denomination coin or indeed any coin?

[Chris Perkins 228]

Why was what done?

It's probably (unless someone has tampered with it at some point) just a standard coin that would have started off as a blank disc. It would have been struck with the two designs on each side either with a patterned ring collar around it to leave the pattern in the centre of the rim, or the blank metal would have been put though a machine to mark the rim before the designs were struck to both sides.

The rim pattern is different to the full size rim millings on modern coins, but that coin was struck in much the same way as coins are made now (except it would have been a steam powered press).

Despite its appearance it was always just one piece of metal (unless someone has tampered with it since)

[Guest Freakdaddy]

Thank you Chris ,so this coin is a straight up and down George 111 penny nothing odd at all ,Iwould post a a couple of piccys but I havent sussed out how yet .

[Master Jmd 80]

Thank you Chris ,so this coin is a straight up and down George 111 penny nothing odd at all ,Iwould post a a couple of piccys but I havent sussed out how yet .

you need to be a member to do that

Edited September 8, 2004 by Master Jmd

[Half Penny Jon 0]

Stop using the smilie with every post JMD, it is very annoying primarily because people think that you are being sarcastic all the time.

[Master Jmd 80]

fair enough i shall not use it any more...i was simply 'winking' at the advice that i gave

Edited September 8, 2004 by Master Jmd

[Half Penny Jon 0]

Personally, I think they designed the wrong smilie for winking!

[Guest Freakdaddy]

Bristol Farthing dated 1670 abit green a bit worn tell me about it please

[Guest John]

I have a 1807 penny with Britannia up side down 

[Peckris 579]

On 2 June 2017 at 4:16 PM, Guest John said:

I have a 1807 penny with Britannia up side down 

What do you mean "up side down"? Do you mean that if you rotate the coin horizontally, the reverse is upside down compared to the obverse? If so, that's how it's supposed to be.