1798 George Iii Coin/replica

[Gary 7]

Does anyone know what this is?

It is supposedly made of blackened copper!

42mm in dia. and weighs 45g!

[DaveG38 405]

Looks very modern to me.

[azda 979]

Looks very modern to me.

Does to me also, the hair detail is quite a giveaway, its far to sharp

[TomGoodheart 403]

What are the letters on the shoulder? (Look like CHR? to me). Might give a clue.

[bagerap 706]

Same weight and size as this. Modern fantasy, sells well overseas.

[azda 979]

What are the letters on the shoulder? (Look like CHR? to me). Might give a clue.

Probably C H K Richard, those initials were also on the Bank dollar issues on the Armour by the shoulder

[Rob 3,152]

What are the letters on the shoulder? (Look like CHR? to me). Might give a clue.

Probably C H K Richard, those initials were also on the Bank dollar issues on the Armour by the shoulder

CHK Conrad Heinrich Kuchler. Employed at Soho where the 5/- dollar coins were overstruck.

[Peckris 579]

Does anyone know what this is?

It is supposedly made of blackened copper!

42mm in dia. and weighs 45g!

Yes, it's a modern Mint-produced fantasy piece reproducing an actual obverse of Geo III and a pattern penny reverse closely resembling that in Peck 1084. However, I think it's one of the better ones, and the 'darkened proof' appearance is attractive. I got one from eBay for £10 which I considered was worth the outlay.

[Coinery 1,156]

Yes, it's a modern Mint-produced fantasy piece...I got one from eBay for £10 which I considered was worth the outlay.

Peck! Now I'm lost and confused, I'm giving this all up, it's just too stressful!

[Gary 7]

Thanks Gents,

Same weight and size as this. Modern fantasy, sells well overseas.

Same Obv. Badger

Does anyone know what this is?

It is supposedly made of blackened copper!

42mm in dia. and weighs 45g!

Yes, it's a modern Mint-produced fantasy piece reproducing an actual obverse of Geo III and a pattern penny reverse closely resembling that in Peck 1084. However, I think it's one of the better ones, and the 'darkened proof' appearance is attractive. I got one from eBay for £10 which I considered was worth the outlay.

I liked the look of it too Peck which is why I also bought one

Edited October 28, 2013 by Gary

[bagerap 706]

AFAIK there are at least 7 fantasies using that same obverse.

[Coinery 1,156]

AFAIK there are at least 7 fantasies using that same obverse.

Oh, B'Jesus, they come in varieties and die-pairs?

Edit: Oh, Gary, no, not you AND Peck?

Edited October 28, 2013 by Coinery

[bagerap 706]

I can remember the 10? Rix dollar for Ceylon, a Canadian piece as well as various Scottish and Irish pretences. But it doesn't stop there. Proof Pattern Crowns are available for every ruler from George III to Edward VIII and for every country of the empire and in all sorts of metals and finishes. As I said earlier, they sell well overseas, but in the UK probably around £5.00 retail.

[Coinery 1,156]

I can remember the 10? Rix dollar for Ceylon, a Canadian piece as well as various Scottish and Irish pretences. But it doesn't stop there. Proof Pattern Crowns are available for every ruler from George III to Edward VIII and for every country of the empire and in all sorts of metals and finishes. As I said earlier, they sell well overseas, but in the UK probably around £5.00 retail.

I just don't see what purpose they serve overseas (or here, for that matter), why would somebody want a fantasy piece, when they can get something genuine?

Is it a gift for relatives scenario abroad, on account of "what else do you buy them", or is it ignorance to the fact that 'genuine' coins are still in existence?

I find it odd! Even stranger than the immeasurable "thunk" that is the coin collector!

[bagerap 706]

A search for Proof Pattern Crown on ebay tonight brings up 408 matching records. Quite a large percentage of those will end up in North America.

[Coinery 1,156]

A search for Proof Pattern Crown on ebay tonight brings up 408 matching records. Quite a large percentage of those will end up in North America.

Eye watering, but true!!! Unbelievable...we are fools to ever think we know it all, and that life is straight forward!

[Peckris 579]

AFAIK there are at least 7 fantasies using that same obverse.

Oh, B'Jesus, they come in varieties and die-pairs?

Edit: Oh, Gary, no, not you AND Peck?

I can remember the 10? Rix dollar for Ceylon, a Canadian piece as well as various Scottish and Irish pretences. But it doesn't stop there. Proof Pattern Crowns are available for every ruler from George III to Edward VIII and for every country of the empire and in all sorts of metals and finishes. As I said earlier, they sell well overseas, but in the UK probably around £5.00 retail.

I just don't see what purpose they serve overseas (or here, for that matter), why would somebody want a fantasy piece, when they can get something genuine?

Is it a gift for relatives scenario abroad, on account of "what else do you buy them", or is it ignorance to the fact that 'genuine' coins are still in existence?

I find it odd! Even stranger than the immeasurable "thunk" that is the coin collector!

Well there are several factors here:

1. It's an attractive piece in anyone's language, so worth having

2. There's no 'original' as such, it's a kind of 'fantasy mule' if you can get your head round that

3. The closest thing to it is an 'original pattern', which in that condition would cost hundreds if not into 4 figures.

4. It uses Kuchler's actual obverse, and apart from the raised cartwheel rim, a very close approximation to an actual pattern reverse.

So there! It's the only fantasy piece I own, and I'd sooner have it than the ridiculous 1933 fantasy penny (I would rather have a 'genuine fake'!!)

[DaveG38 405]

I've got a nice little set of Edward VIII fantasy wreath crowns. They cost very little yet the design and facsimile of a George V wreath is excellent. Nothing wrong with a bit of fantasy - nudge nudge!!

[Coinery 1,156]

Oh, boy...I'll get my coat!

[azda 979]

I have my Fantasy Linda lusardi ear muffs ready for winter, apparently she moulded them

[Peckris 579]

I have my Fantasy Linda lusardi ear muffs ready for winter, apparently she moulded them

EAR muffs?

Oops no, I was thinking of Linda Lovelace...

[Rob 3,152]

I have my Fantasy Linda lusardi ear muffs ready for winter, apparently she moulded them

I looked, but couldn't find an appropriate image.

[Peter 615]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2448995/Linda-Lusardi-launches-new-fashion-line.html

She is a few years older than me. Still fit.

ear "muffs" maybe referring to her early,shall I say non Brazilian, hirsute poses with centre parting

no silicon,botox or trout pout in sight although maybe a bit of artificial toning.

[Gary 7]

AFAIK there are at least 7 fantasies using that same obverse.

Oh, B'Jesus, they come in varieties and die-pairs?

Edit: Oh, Gary, no, not you AND Peck?

[Gary 7]

I have my Fantasy Linda lusardi ear muffs ready for winter, apparently she moulded them

EAR muffs?

Oops no, I was thinking of Linda Lovelace...

careful Peck, your showing your age there! Ohh, if I know that then I too am showing my age, doh!

Edited October 29, 2013 by Gary