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[brg5658 111]

@Nordle11, lovely token!  It looks to have a great strike, great color with some original red, and great luster.  I'd say I think it would graded MS64 or MS65 RB on this side of the pond, but I had a token I bought raw and submitted that came back MS63RB, and I was sure it was better than that.  So, it's MS -- and gorgeous, and IMO would fetch $200 quite easily.  Below are my two similar examples to yours (I'm horrible at attribution of these Druid tokens -- I always have to sit down with my book open, and a magnifying glass -- the differences are often VERY small).  Each of my examples were purchased for $225, some 3 and 2 year ago (respectively).  Congrats on the new purchase!

 

Purchased raw, now NGC MS63RB

 

Purchased already graded, NGC MS64BN

[Paulus 1,975]

Lovely coin Matt, here's my somewhat poorer example from a later year, which I believe to be D&H 398:

Check what (if anything) it says on the edge, mine says

“PAYABLE x IN x LONDON x OR x ANGLESEY x”

[Nordle11 564]

15 minutes ago, brg5658 said:

@Nordle11, lovely token!  It looks to have a great strike, great color with some original red, and great luster.  I'd say I think it would graded MS64 or MS65 RB on this side of the pond, but I had a token I bought raw and submitted that came back MS63RB, and I was sure it was better than that.  So, it's MS -- and gorgeous, and IMO would fetch $200 quite easily.  Below are my two similar examples to yours (I'm horrible at attribution of these Druid tokens -- I always have to sit down with my book open, and a magnifying glass -- the differences are often VERY small).  Each of my examples were purchased for $225, some 3 and 2 year ago (respectively).  Congrats on the new purchase!

I was waiting for you to come along, thanks Brandon  I'm glad it meets your expectations, it signifies to me that I've done well haha. Fitting too as these druid tokens were the ones that piqued my interest in conders in the first place. I had no idea of grade or value because I don't normally spot them in such a nice grade to compare, so I thought I would put down a healthy bid - it ended up going well under than that anyway ($45).

I have to say, I too found it a bit of a job trying to attribute it, the Dalton & Hamer is quite comprehensive, plenty of zooming in and out! 

Thanks again for the info and the examples you've put up, always a great help.

[Nordle11 564]

4 minutes ago, Paulus said:

Lovely coin Matt, here's my somewhat poorer example from a later year, which I believe to be D&H 398:

Check what (if anything) it says on the edge, mine says

“PAYABLE x IN x LONDON x OR x ANGLESEY x”

Oooo, didn't know there could be edge writing. I will have a look when I have it with me  

[brg5658 111]

46 minutes ago, Nordle11 said:

I was waiting for you to come along, thanks Brandon  I'm glad it meets your expectations, it signifies to me that I've done well haha. Fitting too as these druid tokens were the ones that piqued my interest in conders in the first place. I had no idea of grade or value because I don't normally spot them in such a nice grade to compare, so I thought I would put down a healthy bid - it ended up going well under than that anyway ($45).

I have to say, I too found it a bit of a job trying to attribute it, the Dalton & Hamer is quite comprehensive, plenty of zooming in and out! 

Thanks again for the info and the examples you've put up, always a great help.

For $45 you got a screaming good deal...if you wish to share your honey-pot source shoot me a PM.  

[Paulus 1,975]

6 hours ago, Nordle11 said:

And DH296?

If it is 296 it won't have any edge lettering

[Nordle11 564]

Bugger, at least I think it's 296, it's the first I've tried to attribute so I could be a mile off!

[Stuntman 264]

Another 1837 halfpenny with smaller 7 over larger 7 that arrived yesterday via one of the forum member dealers.  I'm pleased with it, a nice coin with nice tone in decent grade.  It looks like 837 over 837 to me?

[Paulus 1,975]

On 29/06/2016 at 4:32 PM, Paulus said:

If it is 296 it won't have any edge lettering

Have you got it yet Matt?

[brg5658 111]

10 hours ago, Paulus said:

Have you got it yet Matt?

[Paulus 1,975]

11 hours ago, Stuntman said:

Another 1837 halfpenny with smaller 7 over larger 7 that arrived yesterday via one of the forum member dealers.  I'm pleased with it, a nice coin with nice tone in decent grade.  It looks like 837 over 837 to me?

I agree with the over-dates, VF+ for me

[brg5658 111]

A copper proof fantasy 48 pence of Ireland, struck around 2001 as part of the INA Retro issues.  I thought this one was mellowing out nicely.

[Paulus 1,975]

A thing of beauty! We can all fantasise!

[brg5658 111]

After much patience, I found a nice example of the Oxfordshire DH-1 Halfpenny token for my collection.  I admire the die work on the obverse detail, and I'm fond of the lovely sun shield on the reverse.   Despite what the NGC label says, this is a halfpenny size token, not a penny size token.  The diesinker was Arnold, and the manufacturer was Lutwyche.  This is a very common token, and the edge reads PAYABLE AT BANBURY OXFORD OR READING.

c. 1795 (undated) Oxfordshire halfpenny token, NGC MS64BN

 

And a close-up of some of the die cutting work on the obverse:

[Nordle11 564]

On 29 June 2016 at 5:32 PM, Paulus said:

If it is 296 it won't have any edge lettering

Hmm, it has the edge lettering..

[Nordle11 564]

I'm 99% sure it's 296 because of the space between E and N in HALFPENNY and it's 26 acorns, but D&H only lists 298 with edge lettering. Any ideas @brg5658?

[Nordle11 564]

On 13 July 2016 at 3:56 PM, Paulus said:

Have you got it yet Matt?

 

On 14 July 2016 at 2:57 AM, brg5658 said:

Sorry, I didn't see these  yes I do have it.

[Paulus 1,975]

2 minutes ago, Nordle11 said:

 

Sorry, I didn't see these  yes I do have it.

Thanks Matt, well you wanted edge lettering, and now you have it, so that's good ...  trouble is there are SO many varieties of these druids!!

They seemed to have better milling technology than the RM at this time, pre-1816!

I want a few more, will have a trawl again soon

[brg5658 111]

I'll try to get out my D&H and figure this one out.  @Nordle11, can you post your pictures of the token and give us the exact edge lettering of the token?

-Brandon

[copper123 1,486]

How about this little beauty I picked up at the weekend . (funny enough not at york

Always a scarcer date and tough in this grade Abt EF  nicely toned

The price ? A real bargain at £5

[Nordle11 564]

2 hours ago, brg5658 said:

I'll try to get out my D&H and figure this one out.  @Nordle11, can you post your pictures of the token and give us the exact edge lettering of the token?

-Brandon

Thanks Brandon, any help is appreciated. The edge lettering reads "Payable in Anglesey London or Liverpool - * -" 

[IanB 175]

2 hours ago, copper123 said:

How about this little beauty I picked up at the weekend . (funny enough not at york

Always a scarcer date and tough in this grade Abt EF  nicely toned

The price ? A real bargain at £5

 

Any chance of seeing the reverse

[brg5658 111]

5 hours ago, Nordle11 said:

Thanks Brandon, any help is appreciated. The edge lettering reads "Payable in Anglesey London or Liverpool - * -" 

 

It is DH-296 (common), I agree with you @Nordle11.  I believe all of the halfpennies dated 1788 have edge lettering of "PAYABLE IN ANGLESEY LONDON OR LIVERPOOL".  Both of the halfpennies I posted above have this edge inscription (DH-275 and DH-282), though neither is explicitly noted in Dalton and Hamer.  The 298a is noted as being different because it has a non-standard edge inscription of "PAYABLE IN LANCASTER LONDON OR BRISTOL".

Truly a superb token @Nordle11, still can't believe the price you got it for.  Looks lustrous and wonderful in your pictures!

[Paulus 1,975]

5 hours ago, copper123 said:

How about this little beauty I picked up at the weekend . (funny enough not at york

Always a scarcer date and tough in this grade Abt EF  nicely toned

The price ? A real bargain at £5

Good price but I'd be grading nVF at best based on that pic alone ...

[Nordle11 564]

7 hours ago, brg5658 said:

It is DH-296 (common), I agree with you @Nordle11.  I believe all of the halfpennies dated 1788 have edge lettering of "PAYABLE IN ANGLESEY LONDON OR LIVERPOOL".  Both of the halfpennies I posted above have this edge inscription (DH-275 and DH-282), though neither is explicitly noted in Dalton and Hamer.  The 298a is noted as being different because it has a non-standard edge inscription of "PAYABLE IN LANCASTER LONDON OR BRISTOL".

Truly a superb token @Nordle11, still can't believe the price you got it for.  Looks lustrous and wonderful in your pictures!

Ok, that clears it up then! Thank you for checking 

And thanks for the kind comments, it really looks 100 times better than the seller photos, I didn't realise how large and weighty the halfpenny would be! Fits nicely to the side of the penny collection