Common E1 6D But Top Grade!

[Coinery 1,153]

Just a regular, run of the mill 6d (date/bust-wise), but pretty irregular for grade! 360789730423

I'd have tackled the Beauty Spot if it wasn't the hard, blue, crustacean deposit, that's occasionally found!

I had £350-£400 in my imaginary pocket for this one! I do envy the winner!

Had to share!

[Paulus 1,975]

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[Coinery 1,153]

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Thanks, Paulus!

[azda 979]

£282 final bid. Cheap

[Coinery 1,153]

£282 final bid. Cheap

I thought so! Just got to get organised! 2 years!

[Paulus 1,975]

2 years what Stuart? Abstinence from coin buying?

[Coinery 1,153]

2 years what Stuart? Abstinence from coin buying?

In any significant way, probably? Quite possibly, maybe? Potentially, likely?

I can't see a way around it at the moment! I'm keeping an eye on the Tudor fakes/counterfeits to keep me onboard for now...will of course be an interesting resource one-day but, for now, only tears and dreaming for the genuine article!

[azda 979]

Just think of it as a minor hiccup Stuart but always keep the eye on the ball because as a coiny you'll bounce back. I wish though you'd have thrown the link up earlier, i would have taken a Stab at that coin. I assume due to it being so near Christmas that people are'nt spending as much, i just hope the same applies at DNW

[TomGoodheart 402]

Goodness, yes. Very nice. Not sure how I missed that!

[Coinery 1,153]

Just think of it as a minor hiccup Stuart but always keep the eye on the ball because as a coiny you'll bounce back. I wish though you'd have thrown the link up earlier, i would have taken a Stab at that coin. I assume due to it being so near Christmas that people are'nt spending as much, i just hope the same applies at DNW

Yes, fingers crossed it's a short stall and, sorry, yes, I really should've posted it earlier...I'd been watching it from the beginning, knowing I wasn't ever going to be a contender! Once a coinery, always a coinery!

Good luck with DNW! Hammered by any chance?

[Coinery 1,153]

Goodness, yes. Very nice. Not sure how I missed that!

Other than the crusty blue spots, I don't think we'll see very many others to give it a run! To be honest, I think even £400 would've been too cheap!

[Sword 1,473]

Very nice! I don't collect hammered (yet) because I can't afford to buy them in good enough conditions.

I would much prefer to have a common coin in top (and therefore rare) condition rather than a very rare coin in poor condition any day.

[TomGoodheart 402]

Very nice! I don't collect hammered (yet) because I can't afford to buy them in good enough conditions.

I would much prefer to have a common coin in top (and therefore rare) condition rather than a very rare coin in poor condition any day.

Good strategy Sword. Take time to learn what's average condition and what's not. Then when you spot something particularly pleasing .. go for it.

Unless it's a Chas I shilling of course!

[Sword 1,473]

Very nice! I don't collect hammered (yet) because I can't afford to buy them in good enough conditions.

I would much prefer to have a common coin in top (and therefore rare) condition rather than a very rare coin in poor condition any day.

Good strategy Sword. Take time to learn what's average condition and what's not. Then when you spot something particularly pleasing .. go for it.

Unless it's a Chas I shilling of course!

I have a feeling that my first hammered will (eventually) be an Edward VI shilling or Chas I halfcrown. Hopefully, VF, full flan, nice portrait and well struck

[Coinery 1,153]

Very nice! I don't collect hammered (yet) because I can't afford to buy them in good enough conditions.

I would much prefer to have a common coin in top (and therefore rare) condition rather than a very rare coin in poor condition any day.

Good strategy Sword. Take time to learn what's average condition and what's not. Then when you spot something particularly pleasing .. go for it.

Unless it's a Chas I shilling of course!

I have a feeling that my first hammered will (eventually) be an Edward VI shilling or Chas I halfcrown. Hopefully, VF, full flan, nice portrait and well struck

A C1 HC is a proper chunk of silver, something to hold, a lovely series of coins! The E6 shillings are certainly pretty, but ordinary by comparison!

[Sword 1,473]

Very nice! I don't collect hammered (yet) because I can't afford to buy them in good enough conditions.

I would much prefer to have a common coin in top (and therefore rare) condition rather than a very rare coin in poor condition any day.

Good strategy Sword. Take time to learn what's average condition and what's not. Then when you spot something particularly pleasing .. go for it.

Unless it's a Chas I shilling of course!

I have a feeling that my first hammered will (eventually) be an Edward VI shilling or Chas I halfcrown. Hopefully, VF, full flan, nice portrait and well struck

A C1 HC is a proper chunk of silver, something to hold, a lovely series of coins! The E6 shillings are certainly pretty, but ordinary by comparison!

and C1 HC are also more affordable too...

[Coinery 1,153]

Would make a fine collection!

[Paulus 1,975]

Very nice! I don't collect hammered (yet) because I can't afford to buy them in good enough conditions.

I would much prefer to have a common coin in top (and therefore rare) condition rather than a very rare coin in poor condition any day.

Good strategy Sword. Take time to learn what's average condition and what's not. Then when you spot something particularly pleasing .. go for it.

Unless it's a Chas I shilling of course!

I have a feeling that my first hammered will (eventually) be an Edward VI shilling or Chas I halfcrown. Hopefully, VF, full flan, nice portrait and well struck

A C1 HC is a proper chunk of silver, something to hold, a lovely series of coins! The E6 shillings are certainly pretty, but ordinary by comparison!

and C1 HC are also more affordable too...

Agreed, I love mine, it isn't perfect by any means but clear enough and I find myself transported back when I hold it, since I have read that they would be a typical weekly wage for a soldier at the time

[Coinery 1,153]

That's when hammered coins have the magic for me, Paulus, when you think of a Royalist Soldier walking our counties, all those year's ago, just for one of those coins! Amazing stuff!

[Rob 3,152]

A C1 HC is a proper chunk of silver, something to hold, a lovely series of coins! The E6 shillings are certainly pretty, but ordinary by comparison!

and C1 HC are also more affordable too...

Agreed, I love mine, it isn't perfect by any means but clear enough and I find myself transported back when I hold it, since I have read that they would be a typical weekly wage for a soldier at the time

During the Civil War, a halfcrown was the daily rate for a cavalryman who had to keep his horse as well as himself. A foot soldier was paid less, but variable depending on the weapons supplied. At the beginning of the war he might have been paid more than a shilling (Byron is noted as paying 1s3d in the early days), but as time progressed that rate came down to either 8d or 9d. It was always a case of supply and demand and business-like once the initial euphoria of raising troops to fight for the just cause had subsided. The troops were not however paid on a regular basis as shown by the troops returning from Ireland in the winter of 1643 who had not been paid for two years. Pay arrived when you found a suitable opposition supporter's house to plunder, or the local population acquiesced to the levy imposed - never a foregone conclusion.

[Paulus 1,975]

A C1 HC is a proper chunk of silver, something to hold, a lovely series of coins! The E6 shillings are certainly pretty, but ordinary by comparison!

and C1 HC are also more affordable too...

Agreed, I love mine, it isn't perfect by any means but clear enough and I find myself transported back when I hold it, since I have read that they would be a typical weekly wage for a soldier at the time

During the Civil War, a halfcrown was the daily rate for a cavalryman who had to keep his horse as well as himself. A foot soldier was paid less, but variable depending on the weapons supplied. At the beginning of the war he might have been paid more than a shilling (Byron is noted as paying 1s3d in the early days), but as time progressed that rate came down to either 8d or 9d. It was always a case of supply and demand and business-like once the initial euphoria of raising troops to fight for the just cause had subsided. The troops were not however paid on a regular basis as shown by the troops returning from Ireland in the winter of 1643 who had not been paid for two years. Pay arrived when you found a suitable opposition supporter's house to plunder, or the local population acquiesced to the levy imposed - never a foregone conclusion.

Thanks Rob, I was sure things couldn't have been cut and dried in those very turbulent times! One of the most fascinating periods of our history, and the story is told in coins perhaps more than any other era

[Coinery 1,153]

A C1 HC is a proper chunk of silver, something to hold, a lovely series of coins! The E6 shillings are certainly pretty, but ordinary by comparison!

and C1 HC are also more affordable too...

Agreed, I love mine, it isn't perfect by any means but clear enough and I find myself transported back when I hold it, since I have read that they would be a typical weekly wage for a soldier at the time

During the Civil War, a halfcrown was the daily rate for a cavalryman who had to keep his horse as well as himself. A foot soldier was paid less, but variable depending on the weapons supplied. At the beginning of the war he might have been paid more than a shilling (Byron is noted as paying 1s3d in the early days), but as time progressed that rate came down to either 8d or 9d. It was always a case of supply and demand and business-like once the initial euphoria of raising troops to fight for the just cause had subsided. The troops were not however paid on a regular basis as shown by the troops returning from Ireland in the winter of 1643 who had not been paid for two years. Pay arrived when you found a suitable opposition supporter's house to plunder, or the local population acquiesced to the levy imposed - never a foregone conclusion.

Once the land was in turmoil, the fee could have easily been reduced without opposition, on account of 'what can you do and where do you go' in such a country and, what a great war policy too that 'you get paid boys' once we take this target! Horrendous times, the poor old commoner!

[Coinery 1,153]

Just out of interest, does anyone know where the Sixpence ended up?

[rpeddie 119]

Sixpence-another one of comparable grade(i think so anyway ) take it this is one of the more common mint marks?

[Coinery 1,153]

Sixpence-another one of comparable grade(i think so anyway ) take it this is one of the more common mint marks?

Not quite as good IMO, though the bust is overall better! It falls down against the other on account of its incomplete beading and reduced eye-appeal on account of it. Very nice coin, though, regardless!

Bust 1F on the '61 is just about the most commonest of 6D's, look out for the rarer bust types on this date!

1571 and '72 with Crown PM are other comparable 6ds for common issue.

Thanks for putting it up RPE!

Edit: also looks like there might be an old crease vertically in the left obverse field? Difficult to tell on the phone, but the crack in the legend does tend to support?

Edited March 5, 2014 by Coinery