E 1 Martlet Shilling.

[JPK 3]

Hi,just wondered what your thoughts are Re.the grade of this shilling,thanks for any help.

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[Garrett 76]

good question.

Hammered seems harder to grade.

When I'm eyeing of a potential purchase I will scour archive areas sites like london coins, Heritage, nobles etc to find similar examples and see how they are graded.

Having said that, these hammered pieces seem to go a little better if the monarch/s face is visible.

cheers and nice coin !

Garrett.

[Coinery 1,157]

Hi JPK, you have asked the million dollar question here, and there's no simple way to answer it, as the coin in question exhibits just about every vagarity that makes it nigh impossible to pin down!

I'm firmly sitting on the fence re the grading of hammered coins, as I genuinely don't believe such a science exists for the type, despite the media of the TPGC's and others! Or at least if it does, it cannot be linked to value, on account of the other far more important aspect of eye-appeal, and currently unquantified rarity of variety (this shilling is the most common of them all, incidentally)!

It may be loosely described as an NVF coin, but has other aspects of negatives and positives that alter its value!

To play safe and stay with the TPG terminology, it has NVF details!

As I said, it's just about the hardest of questions to answer, without a dissertation response, or an ability to define instinct!

Are you thinking of buying it?

Edit: it's probably VFish truth be told, but not VFish money, given it's the commonest of all the Liz shillings!

Double edit: £350-£400

Edited March 16, 2014 by Coinery

[JPK 3]

Thanks for the info,I understand the difficulties in grading hammereds,but do appreciate your views.

This is one that I plucked out of a muddy field,it's the third martlet shilling I've found,so I was fairly sure it was a common one,although this one is by far the best condition,and is nice & flat,it does look nice in the hand,esp.the reverse.

[Coinery 1,157]

Thanks for the info,I understand the difficulties in grading hammereds,but do appreciate your views.

This is one that I plucked out of a muddy field,it's the third martlet shilling I've found,so I was fairly sure it was a common one,although this one is by far the best condition,and is nice & flat,it does look nice in the hand,esp.the reverse.

I'll give you £250!