Lcn Auction - 1877 Narrow Date Penny

[RLC35 288]

Sorry, confusion reigns. I was talking about the1863 open 3 penny

I saw a UNC 1863 open 3 while I was in Great Britain, last Fall, so I know at least one of that grade exists.

[Colin88 54]

With the exception of the UNC one that Azda mentioned (I'd love to see that puppy), I would suggest that Rob's is/was therefore the second finest known?

You may rest assured that I do not have, nor have I ever had a narrow date 1877 penny. However, should I inadvertently acquire an uncirculated example, I will have to consider what to do with it............

Sorry ...got confused between me Rob's and me Bob's....

[pies 33]

With the exception of the UNC one that Azda mentioned (I'd love to see that puppy), I would suggest that Rob's is/was therefore the second finest known?

You may rest assured that I do not have, nor have I ever had a narrow date 1877 penny. However, should I inadvertently acquire an uncirculated example, I will have to consider what to do with it............

Sorry ...got confused between me Rob's and me Bob's....

A bit like the mint they kept getting their R's and B's mixed up

[Peckris 579]

I've seen an UNC one

Blessed are the chosen ones.....

I didn't think an unc F-90 existed today

Bob's was the best I've seen. I've never heard of an UNC example, unless you have one in your pension fund Dave?

Here is my 1877ND. It is not quite VF, but is better than the one slabbed by CGS as Fine. I hand delivered this one to the new owner, in Britain, last September. I wish I had it back! Ha,Ha.

Sorry to be rude, but that is nowhere near VF - I'd only rate it F or GF at best.

You are right Peck...it is rude. Ha,Ha! Probably GF to NVF is the correct grading range. The advanced collector that bought it, had a GF example, and mine was better than his.

Ok, but I'd say the "advanced collector" was sadly deluded if he rated his example - worse than yours - as GF. I'd class myself as at least an "experienced collector" and I was, to be fair, backing up my opinion via Derek Allen's book. I'd personally rate yours as F/GF but opinions differ, of course. Also, my opinion is based around British, not US, grading, which is anything from half to a whole grade different for a stated grade. Your assessment may be absolutely spot on for the American market.

[Colin88 54]

Does the 'advanced collector' want to sell me his spare?

[RLC35 288]

I've seen an UNC one

Blessed are the chosen ones.....

I didn't think an unc F-90 existed today

Bob's was the best I've seen. I've never heard of an UNC example, unless you have one in your pension fund Dave?

Here is my 1877ND. It is not quite VF, but is better than the one slabbed by CGS as Fine. I hand delivered this one to the new owner, in Britain, last September. I wish I had it back! Ha,Ha.

Sorry to be rude, but that is nowhere near VF - I'd only rate it F or GF at best.

You are right Peck...it is rude. Ha,Ha! Probably GF to NVF is the correct grading range. The advanced collector that bought it, had a GF example, and mine was better than his.

Ok, but I'd say the "advanced collector" was sadly deluded if he rated his example - worse than yours - as GF. I'd class myself as at least an "experienced collector" and I was, to be fair, backing up my opinion via Derek Allen's book. I'd personally rate yours as F/GF but opinions differ, of course. Also, my opinion is based around British, not US, grading, which is anything from half to a whole grade different for a stated grade. Your assessment may be absolutely spot on for the American market.

Enough to say that you and I disagree on this subject. and that's ok. BTW...the collector I mentioned is not sadly deluded, he is well respected throughout Great Britain, and has a PHd in Computer Science! I hope we are still friends...

Colin88...PM me if you are serious, and we can talk about your question.

[Peckris 579]

I've seen an UNC one

Blessed are the chosen ones.....

I didn't think an unc F-90 existed today

Bob's was the best I've seen. I've never heard of an UNC example, unless you have one in your pension fund Dave?

Here is my 1877ND. It is not quite VF, but is better than the one slabbed by CGS as Fine. I hand delivered this one to the new owner, in Britain, last September. I wish I had it back! Ha,Ha.

Sorry to be rude, but that is nowhere near VF - I'd only rate it F or GF at best.

You are right Peck...it is rude. Ha,Ha! Probably GF to NVF is the correct grading range. The advanced collector that bought it, had a GF example, and mine was better than his.

Ok, but I'd say the "advanced collector" was sadly deluded if he rated his example - worse than yours - as GF. I'd class myself as at least an "experienced collector" and I was, to be fair, backing up my opinion via Derek Allen's book. I'd personally rate yours as F/GF but opinions differ, of course. Also, my opinion is based around British, not US, grading, which is anything from half to a whole grade different for a stated grade. Your assessment may be absolutely spot on for the American market.

Enough to say that you and I disagree on this subject. and that's ok. BTW...the collector I mentioned is not sadly deluded, he is well respected throughout Great Britain, and has a PHd in Computer Science! I hope we are still friends...

Colin88...PM me if you are serious, and we can talk about your question.

Mais naturellement, mon ami

[RLC35 288]

I've seen an UNC one

Blessed are the chosen ones.....

I didn't think an unc F-90 existed today

Bob's was the best I've seen. I've never heard of an UNC example, unless you have one in your pension fund Dave?

Here is my 1877ND. It is not quite VF, but is better than the one slabbed by CGS as Fine. I hand delivered this one to the new owner, in Britain, last September. I wish I had it back! Ha,Ha.

Sorry to be rude, but that is nowhere near VF - I'd only rate it F or GF at best.

You are right Peck...it is rude. Ha,Ha! Probably GF to NVF is the correct grading range. The advanced collector that bought it, had a GF example, and mine was better than his.

Ok, but I'd say the "advanced collector" was sadly deluded if he rated his example - worse than yours - as GF. I'd class myself as at least an "experienced collector" and I was, to be fair, backing up my opinion via Derek Allen's book. I'd personally rate yours as F/GF but opinions differ, of course. Also, my opinion is based around British, not US, grading, which is anything from half to a whole grade different for a stated grade. Your assessment may be absolutely spot on for the American market.

Enough to say that you and I disagree on this subject. and that's ok. BTW...the collector I mentioned is not sadly deluded, he is well respected throughout Great Britain, and has a PHd in Computer Science! I hope we are still friends...

Colin88...PM me if you are serious, and we can talk about your question.

Mais naturellement, mon ami

Sorry Peck, but it has to be American English, or English for me...I am not a PHd! Ha,Ha!

[RLC35 288]

I've seen an UNC one

Blessed are the chosen ones.....

I didn't think an unc F-90 existed today

Bob's was the best I've seen. I've never heard of an UNC example, unless you have one in your pension fund Dave?

Here is my 1877ND. It is not quite VF, but is better than the one slabbed by CGS as Fine. I hand delivered this one to the new owner, in Britain, last September. I wish I had it back! Ha,Ha.

Sorry to be rude, but that is nowhere near VF - I'd only rate it F or GF at best.

You are right Peck...it is rude. Ha,Ha! Probably GF to NVF is the correct grading range. The advanced collector that bought it, had a GF example, and mine was better than his.

Ok, but I'd say the "advanced collector" was sadly deluded if he rated his example - worse than yours - as GF. I'd class myself as at least an "experienced collector" and I was, to be fair, backing up my opinion via Derek Allen's book. I'd personally rate yours as F/GF but opinions differ, of course. Also, my opinion is based around British, not US, grading, which is anything from half to a whole grade different for a stated grade. Your assessment may be absolutely spot on for the American market.

Enough to say that you and I disagree on this subject. and that's ok. BTW...the collector I mentioned is not sadly deluded, he is well respected throughout Great Britain, and has a PHd in Computer Science! I hope we are still friends...

Colin88...PM me if you are serious, and we can talk about your question.

Mais naturellement, mon ami

Sorry Peck, but it has to be American English, or English for me...I am not a PHd! Ha,Ha!

I translated it...sounds good.

[Paulus 1,975]

I translated it...sounds good.

These Americans and their ironic dry wit ...

[RLC35 288]

I translated it...sounds good.

These Americans and their ironic dry wit ...

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[pies 33]

It sold for £4.5k plus commission

[RLC35 288]

It sold for £4.5k plus commission

Even with the pitted surface, probably a good buy!