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1911 Florin. What's a realistic price

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Having raided my collection when younger, my nephew can now afford to buy his own coins.

He's looking for 1911 & 13 florins to complete a run but I'm sure he can do better than this

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/George-V-Silver-Florin-1911-PROOF-S4012-Very-High-Grade-/181522922655?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item2a439bfc9f

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What should we be looking at for VF?

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Having raided my collection when younger, my nephew can now afford to buy his own coins.

He's looking for 1911 & 13 florins to complete a run but I'm sure he can do better than this

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/George-V-Silver-Florin-1911-PROOF-S4012-Very-High-Grade-/181522922655?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item2a439bfc9f

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What should we be looking at for VF?

London Coins sold a couple in UNC for £80 each about a year ago. So, I would price a VF in the £15-£20 pound range.

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VF will certainly be cheaper but because of the light strike for most of this series most VF coins can look more like a coin in F condition. Also an UNC 1911 proof florin would be some where over GBP 120 and 1913 is a low mintage year and can be hard to get in a higher grades.

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I see that ebay example has rather nasty rim damage.

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I see that ebay example has rather nasty rim damage.

It's had a lot of ware also. Ear and mustache shows flattening, are we sure it's a proof.

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One of the reasons for posting that particular piece was the perceived damage. I can't accept that it was ever a proof.

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I see that ebay example has rather nasty rim damage.

It's had a lot of ware also. Ear and mustache shows flattening, are we sure it's a proof.

Ware? I hope you have a Scottish ipad :D

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I'd accept that as a proof, G5 has some nice detail there - wouldn't accept that into my collection. Wait for a bit nicer specimen as they certainly are not rare. You might do well as has been suggested by finding (with some work) a well struck gVF specimen of the currency. If a few extra quid get you a much nicer bit, try for it. Interestingly, I have seen some conservatively graded bits on ebay from places like New Zealand.

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Why so surprised that florins turn up in New Zealand as the British issues were used in NZ and Australia in the early part of the last century. I have a publication from the Bank of NSW (now Westpac) tracing Silver coinage in Australia. It seems that the British issues were currency into the 1930s. Many probably migrated back to the UK when the Australian pound was devalued against Sterling in the early 1930s.

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Not so much that they are found there but rather that grading is many times nicely conservative and prices reasonable.

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Not convinced it's a proof, though if currency it's a strong GEF example with very little wear.

However, two points not in its favour:

1. the rim damage, as already pointed out

2. £80 is a bit steep for a starting bid, especially with its drawbacks

It would be ideal to complete a run, but it would have to be a lot lower in price.

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Wow, Peck, if you can find me a G5 florin of currency strike of ANY date with that rim and device detail I would be an instant buyer at your price!

I possibly have a bit of background on this series, and have never seen a currency with that much articulation of strike.

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to be honest...

that piece locks not very attractive to me. The coin shows too many rim defects.

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to be honest...

that piece locks not very attractive to me. The coin shows too many rim defects.

I agree, the rim problems let it down too much, a shame because I like the rest of it!

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There's a complete set in todays dnw sale, lot 2838 800-1000 GBP estimate, but i also agree with the above comments, this coin has to many problems for me if it were a proof, i'd personally leave it

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