Help...ID please

[pescaotk1 2]

I have these two hammered coins and would like to know what they are please.

One is 24mm across the flan and the other is 20mm across.

Thank you!

[TomGoodheart 403]

The larger is an Edward London groat and smaller, Henry London penny ... which Edward or Henry, I shall leave to my esteemed fellow members to decide I'm afraid!

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[TomGoodheart 403]

I should have added that the 'Henry penny' is of the short cross type which was issued from 1180-1247 and so could be from the reigns of Kings Henry II, Richard, John or Henry III. Which one is determined by differences in lettering and portraiture ...

[Coinery 1,156]

I should have added that the 'Henry penny' is of the short cross type which was issued from 1180-1247 and so could be from the reigns of Kings Henry II, Richard, John or Henry III. Which one is determined by differences in lettering and portraiture ...

And often easily cross-reference by the moneyer on the page at the end of the section in Spink for an occasional simple ID! :-)

Obviously not home!

[Richard2 60]

Using my book by Gerry Slevin on Short Cross Legends I would say its a short cross penny of Richard, class 2. Moneyer, RAUL ON LUND. London mint.

hope this helps

[Coinery 1,156]

I can narrow the short-cross down to S1344 - S1346 with Spink (of course)!

Would need further literature to narrow it further.

[bobby moore 1]

The short cross ia a class 1b RAUL at London ( 2 curls to the left ,5 to the right ) Henry II.

[bobby moore 1]

And i would say Edward III for the other .